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first the cia blamed protesters. then the state department spokeswoman said prior warnings could make the agency look back. t >> the cia was the agency that made changes to the edits -- i mean to the talking points and then produced the talking points. >> for the president's spokesman to say that, well, there was only words or technical changes made in those e-mails is a flat-out untruth. >> so to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real truth is, the people who were there in tripoli and in benghazi knew this was a terrorist attack from the get-go. >> reporter: issa says today he'll invite the co-chairs of the benghazi review board to testify privately about why they didn't question secretary of state clinton. >> because, in fact, we knew where the responsibility rested. >> reporter: lawmakers say expect more whistleblowers like gregory hicks who told congress last week he asked for more help during the benghazi attack and was denied. but some question whether this investigation is headed in the right direction.
first the cia blamed protesters. then the state department spokeswoman said prior warnings could make the agency look back. t >> the cia was the agency that made changes to the edits -- i mean to the talking points and then produced the talking points. >> for the president's spokesman to say that, well, there was only words or technical changes made in those e-mails is a flat-out untruth. >> so to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real truth is, the people who were...
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fox news, chief washington correspondent james rosen has our report. >> these were cia drafted and cia finalized talking points. >> reporter: state department insisted this 94 pages of e-mail released wednesday by obama administration show it was the cia that drove the editing of the false talking points to benghazi. but e-mails reveal then state department spokeswoman victoria new land, and secretary of state david adams were major players in process demanding deletion of references on -- >> those were concerns that we know and have known that cia also shared. >> reporter: true to cia general council steven preston claimed early on that fbi had given quote, express instructs not to issue any statements identifying the attackers. a cia official e-mails his colleague at langly at 9:15:00 p.m. that fateful friday to say quote, state department had major reservation with much or most of the document we havevised document with their concerns in mind, when new land cited fbi investigation as reason for deleting terrorism reverends a cia official shot back, quote, the fbi did not have major
fox news, chief washington correspondent james rosen has our report. >> these were cia drafted and cia finalized talking points. >> reporter: state department insisted this 94 pages of e-mail released wednesday by obama administration show it was the cia that drove the editing of the false talking points to benghazi. but e-mails reveal then state department spokeswoman victoria new land, and secretary of state david adams were major players in process demanding deletion of...
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that reportedly is from the cia and that was expunged. what does that tell you? >> well, i think it shows that the intelligence community was well aware of what's going on and that the state department really with a more political motive in mind was trying to keep it out. we know from other e-mails that the department's senior leadership was involved in looking at these talking points. and it's this quote you've read is significant and another piece of evidence that the administration's latest spin, you know, this is just bureaucratic turf fighting is wrong. normally it's the cia that's trying to keep information from being made public, to protect sources and methods of intelligence gathering. what happened here is clearly that the cia well understood what was up, as did the state department's own employees on the ground in benghazi, and it was higher levels of authority back here in washington that were trying to put a different cast on the facts. >> finally, ambassador, should there be a select committee to investigate this? >> i think absolutely. we've learned
that reportedly is from the cia and that was expunged. what does that tell you? >> well, i think it shows that the intelligence community was well aware of what's going on and that the state department really with a more political motive in mind was trying to keep it out. we know from other e-mails that the department's senior leadership was involved in looking at these talking points. and it's this quote you've read is significant and another piece of evidence that the administration's...
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it was a cia outpost with diplomatic cover. what you see in the e-mails, state being like oh, no, you don't, cia, don't put this on us, this was your facility that you have to defend. >> and god knows what went on before that. >> president obama called it a side show which was being incredibly generous. this story, the fact we are talking about it eight months later, the crafting, editing of basically a pr release for members of congress is amazing. and that's based on very bad reporting in the last week. >> yes, thank you. on friday when there was e-mails obtained, actually no, e-mails shown to republican congressional staffers who have an ax to grind who they be paraphrased them. >> who then passed on to the press, passed on to jonathan carl of abc news and passed on inaccurate summaries that the white house was playing politics. >> paraphrases that appeared in quotes. >> this signals that the white house itself thinks there's nothing there, but they poured fuel on the fire. they looked at a news cycle in which they've got th
it was a cia outpost with diplomatic cover. what you see in the e-mails, state being like oh, no, you don't, cia, don't put this on us, this was your facility that you have to defend. >> and god knows what went on before that. >> president obama called it a side show which was being incredibly generous. this story, the fact we are talking about it eight months later, the crafting, editing of basically a pr release for members of congress is amazing. and that's based on very bad...
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i put the question to the former cia director michael hayden. do you think there is significance to the fact that so many people who hunted down bill bin laden were woman. >> i will confirm, you are right. this is a band of sisters that led this analytical hunt. two were jennifer matthews was there and elizabeth hanson. both had briefed me about the hunt for bin laden. they were phenomenal. they were obsessed. they were focused. >> somebody said to me there are all of those macho guys out there but you wouldn't want these women after you because they are relentless. >> they were absolutely relentless. this is a decades-long hunt and for these women, longer than a decade. these people were hunting bin laden before hunting bin laden was cool and popular. they were back in the day, prior to 9/11 and in fact, opening line from homeland -- >> missed something once before. >> where she says i missed something that day. i think a lot of people at the agency, including these folks were animated by the fact that if that even had taken place and now they
i put the question to the former cia director michael hayden. do you think there is significance to the fact that so many people who hunted down bill bin laden were woman. >> i will confirm, you are right. this is a band of sisters that led this analytical hunt. two were jennifer matthews was there and elizabeth hanson. both had briefed me about the hunt for bin laden. they were phenomenal. they were obsessed. they were focused. >> somebody said to me there are all of those macho...
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i put the question to the former cia director, michael hayden. do you think there's any significance to the fact that so many of the people who hunted bin laden down were women? >> i will confirm, you're right. this was a band of sisters that led this analytical hunt. two of the sisters were killed at cost. jennifer matthews was there and elizabeth hanson. both briefed me about the hunt for bin laden, both were phenomenal and focused and obsessed. >> there are all these macho guys out there, but you wouldn't want tease women after you, they're relentless. >> this is a decade's long hunt and for these women, longer than a decade, these people were hunting bin laden before hunting bin laden was cool and popular. they were back there in the day prior to 9/11. in fact, that opening line from "homeland." >> i missed something once before -- >> where carrie mutters, i missed something that day. a lot of people in the agency, including these folks, were animated by the fact that that event had taken place and now they wanted to set things right. they re
i put the question to the former cia director, michael hayden. do you think there's any significance to the fact that so many of the people who hunted bin laden down were women? >> i will confirm, you're right. this was a band of sisters that led this analytical hunt. two of the sisters were killed at cost. jennifer matthews was there and elizabeth hanson. both briefed me about the hunt for bin laden, both were phenomenal and focused and obsessed. >> there are all these macho guys...
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. >> these were cia drafted and cia finalized talking points. >> the state department insists that the e-mails released by the obama administration that the cia drove the talking points on benghazi. but the e-mail showed state department spokesman and dave a dams were major players and demanding answers to ansar al-sharia and extremist. >> those are concerns that we have known that the cia also shared. >> it is true that ste fan preston gave information. and they swiftly abandoned him. they e-mailed to say that the state department had major reservations for the document. we revised the document with those concerns in mind and the reason for deleting terrorism references, the cia offered only a couple of minor suggestions. after ansar al-sharia had been subscrubbed, the fbi said al-qaeda was involved and they are pursuing that theory. >> the only edits by the white house was stylist and corrected the description of the building, and the facility from conulate to diplomatic facility and the like. >> in fact tommy veter e-mailed to say that john brennan, a white house counter terrorism a
. >> these were cia drafted and cia finalized talking points. >> the state department insists that the e-mails released by the obama administration that the cia drove the talking points on benghazi. but the e-mail showed state department spokesman and dave a dams were major players and demanding answers to ansar al-sharia and extremist. >> those are concerns that we have known that the cia also shared. >> it is true that ste fan preston gave information. and they swiftly...
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russians say he's a cia spy. so do cia spies in real life wear bad blond wigs? >>> plus, the latest on just how one man allegedly kept three women prisoners in a house for a decade. we have found the one huge red flag that his neighbors missed. we have a special investigation from cleveland tonight. >>> the feds want to lower the legal limit on drinking and driving. >>> plus tonight's shout out. prince harry meets governor christie. chris christie took harry to see the damage of sandy. they talked and had lunch at the governor's seaside retreat and christie presented him with a gift. he got his own blue fleece. now the governor was wearing a lovely mint shirt today but the blue fleece is similar to the one he was seen wearing day in and day out in the days after sandy struck. we'll be right back. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping wa
russians say he's a cia spy. so do cia spies in real life wear bad blond wigs? >>> plus, the latest on just how one man allegedly kept three women prisoners in a house for a decade. we have found the one huge red flag that his neighbors missed. we have a special investigation from cleveland tonight. >>> the feds want to lower the legal limit on drinking and driving. >>> plus tonight's shout out. prince harry meets governor christie. chris christie took harry to see...
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with high profile attacks leading to cia deaths as with the attack on the cia boast in afghanistan in december, 2009, in which seven cia officials were killed, sometimes the cia publicly acknowledges and honors cia officials killed but that did not happen in this case. then cia director david patraeus did not attend the funerals of woods and doherty. obviously cia officers feel it imperative to keep their work in the shadows but that in this case may also keep some of the answers about benghazi in the dark as well. >>> coming up, not a great week for the president but while the scandals swirl there is a little teenie bit of good news getting ground out, the deficit problem may be slowing -- not disappearing -- slowing. breaking news out of the arab world. an al qaeda backed suicide attack is foiled in egypt. the reported target? western embassies. we'll have an update when "the we'll have an update when "the lead" continues. b positive?? have you eaten today? i had some lebanese food for lunch. i love the lebanese. i... i'm not sure. enough of the formalities... lets get started shall
with high profile attacks leading to cia deaths as with the attack on the cia boast in afghanistan in december, 2009, in which seven cia officials were killed, sometimes the cia publicly acknowledges and honors cia officials killed but that did not happen in this case. then cia director david patraeus did not attend the funerals of woods and doherty. obviously cia officers feel it imperative to keep their work in the shadows but that in this case may also keep some of the answers about benghazi...
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with me now is former cia operative mike baker. joins us from boise. david hunt still with us from boston and christopher is still with us in new york. mike, right from the get-go, they threw the cia under the bus. do you feel exonerated? >> yeah. unhappily so. you'd like to think that the white house has more honor than that. we've been talking about, judge, on your show surely since the attack occurred. the white house, oddly enough, is in charge of the white house talking points, the points that they put together under their direction to explain their position on any particular matter. they would like us to think somehow that the cia is driving that train or the state department now. as if somehow the white house is nothing more than a mouthpiece. you send over your talking points, we'll read whatever you draft. it's an indication of this continuing contempt that the president has for the public and the belief that they can't tell the difference between a load of crap and the truth. >> that's an interesting comment. colonel hunt, i'm going back to y
with me now is former cia operative mike baker. joins us from boise. david hunt still with us from boston and christopher is still with us in new york. mike, right from the get-go, they threw the cia under the bus. do you feel exonerated? >> yeah. unhappily so. you'd like to think that the white house has more honor than that. we've been talking about, judge, on your show surely since the attack occurred. the white house, oddly enough, is in charge of the white house talking points, the...
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turns out the original drafts talked about extremists with links to al-qaeda and noted the cia had warned for months about threats in benghazi. but all that was taken out before susan rice went on the sunday talk shows. we invited congressmen from two key house panels. mike rogers the republican chair of the intelligence committee and from seattle adam smith the top democrat on the armed services committee. you were on "fox news sunday" september 16 right after susan rice came on the show he and she said it was a spontaneous reaction to a video he that had been hijacked by extremists. from the very beginning you doubted her account. let's watch. >> i have serious questions. it seemed to be a military style coordinated. i'm just suspect that they could come to that conclusion that it was a spontaneous effort given the coordination of it. >> chris: after what you learned this week, the fact of what state department officials were saying during the attack. how often and the talking points were changed, did the obama administration mislead or even lie to the american people? >> well, it is --
turns out the original drafts talked about extremists with links to al-qaeda and noted the cia had warned for months about threats in benghazi. but all that was taken out before susan rice went on the sunday talk shows. we invited congressmen from two key house panels. mike rogers the republican chair of the intelligence committee and from seattle adam smith the top democrat on the armed services committee. you were on "fox news sunday" september 16 right after susan rice came on the...
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. >> reporter: cia station chief in libya cabled home that benghazi was a terrorist attack, and first version of cia talking points on benghazi drafted september 15 started we do know that islamicki extremists were tied. >> reporter: president obama did disclose today that talking points delivered by his u.n. ambassador, quote pretty much matched contents of the president's daily brief, highly classified he received each morning "wall street journal" reported today of it not until september 22, that the pdb was updated to. if that it true, g.o.p. lawmaker will want to know why it was so different from cia's own draft talking points when almost identified al qaeda affiliates as purpose operators -- perpetrators, if you could indulge one personal note, i have spent 19 years working on book of watergate there are a lot of comparisons floating around right now. one point i want to make for historical accuracy, president nixon never ordered or saw or touched the president's list. lou: that is why we took care to say they were among charges of impeachment not that he committed such acts. >>
. >> reporter: cia station chief in libya cabled home that benghazi was a terrorist attack, and first version of cia talking points on benghazi drafted september 15 started we do know that islamicki extremists were tied. >> reporter: president obama did disclose today that talking points delivered by his u.n. ambassador, quote pretty much matched contents of the president's daily brief, highly classified he received each morning "wall street journal" reported today of it...
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so the cia was super aggressive. all the talking points were reduced to mush and politics was inserted into it. i don't think we should necessarily say this is politics intruding on a cia pure operation. >> congressman, don't you see the muddle in all of in that it's not so clearly watergate as some republicans allege? >> look, i'm not out to try to bring anybody down. i just want the answers. i look at a couple of things. number one, who i think chaed the talking points? these are questions that go to motivation. i know that ambassador rice went on every morning show and said this was a result of a youtube video. this was not a terrorist attack. it was frankly told to us in a closed door meeting in congress by hillary clinton, too. as a pilot in the military, i went to survival training and the first thing they tell you, your country, just know your country will be move heaven and earth to come get you and it appears in this case the country didn't move haven nor earth to can get them. the administration said we had
so the cia was super aggressive. all the talking points were reduced to mush and politics was inserted into it. i don't think we should necessarily say this is politics intruding on a cia pure operation. >> congressman, don't you see the muddle in all of in that it's not so clearly watergate as some republicans allege? >> look, i'm not out to try to bring anybody down. i just want the answers. i look at a couple of things. number one, who i think chaed the talking points? these are...
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finally, the white house watered down the language but says the cia was responsible. >> the cia, you know, was the agency to make changes to the talking points then produced the talking points. >> for the spokesman to say, well, there was only words or technical changes made in the e-mails is a flat out untruth. >> to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real truth is, the people who were there in tripoli and benghazi knew this was a terrorist attack from the get-go. >> reporter: issa says he'll invite the co-chairs to testify privately about why they didn't question secretary of state clinton. >> because, in fact, we knew where the responsible rested. >> reporter: lawmakers say expect more whistle blowers like gregory hicks who told them he asked for more help but was denied. some question whether the investigation's headed in the right direction. >> i would much rather get into the investigation of the group that is threaten the u.s., how we can figure out who they are and stop them. >> reporter: now, there's, of course, politics. democrats accusing republicans going after hill
finally, the white house watered down the language but says the cia was responsible. >> the cia, you know, was the agency to make changes to the talking points then produced the talking points. >> for the spokesman to say, well, there was only words or technical changes made in the e-mails is a flat out untruth. >> to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real truth is, the people who were there in tripoli and benghazi knew this was a terrorist attack from the get-go....
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they say that a cia officer was detained on supposed suspicions of spying after he attempted to recruit a russian secret agent. he was under the guides of a diplomat and written introductions and a large sum of money when he was detained. sounds like a tom clancy novel. to minnesota where later mark dayton will sign the same-sex marriage bill into law. the house passed it 75-79. wettings between same-sex couples can be as early as august 1st. florida senator's marco rubio's super park will defend on gun control. ayotte was criticized in her state. she say mother and a former state attorney general and knows how to be tough on crime. i have to say i don't remember a candidate running an ad to help someone i hope will endorse him should he run in 2016. governor chris cristy is explaining where his campaign aired a negative ad. she said i would have run a purely positive campaign and he will finish it. the latest ad is called out for raising taxes. the second tv ad and part of an $800,000 media purchase. >> politics is a family business. john kerry's brother will be secretary of commerce a
they say that a cia officer was detained on supposed suspicions of spying after he attempted to recruit a russian secret agent. he was under the guides of a diplomat and written introductions and a large sum of money when he was detained. sounds like a tom clancy novel. to minnesota where later mark dayton will sign the same-sex marriage bill into law. the house passed it 75-79. wettings between same-sex couples can be as early as august 1st. florida senator's marco rubio's super park will...
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where is it in the cia draft. we know what the cia draft was. where was the story line it all happened because of spontaneous demonstrations provoked by an anti-muslim video. where is that in the cia talking points? i don't see that. i don't see it at all. >> i don't see it at all. >> that's right. they had the absolute facts and the state department and the white house -- look, we don't know precisely who did this, but this a saturday morning, the cia, they are toll to excite all those comments. i don't think that's the spokeswoman over there, i don't think it's ben rhodes, neither one of those should be telling the deputy director of the the cia what to put in something or what not to put into something. who is the heavy that told them to take it out and who is the heavy in the drama that came up with the stupid lie it was the video? >> so we have three big scandals now engulfing the white house. we have benghazi, the irs scandal and the holder justice department secretly seizing the phone records of the a.p. now the lap dog media of that neve
where is it in the cia draft. we know what the cia draft was. where was the story line it all happened because of spontaneous demonstrations provoked by an anti-muslim video. where is that in the cia talking points? i don't see that. i don't see it at all. >> i don't see it at all. >> that's right. they had the absolute facts and the state department and the white house -- look, we don't know precisely who did this, but this a saturday morning, the cia, they are toll to excite all...
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russia is alleging this is a cia spy. judging from the evidence we've seen, the wigs, the sunglasses, do you believe them? >> i don't know. i'm not sure this is the case. there could be some theater here, too. the russians like to play this up when they get a spy. remember, putin, former kgb officer, is president of the country. there are tensions in the relationship over a whole host of things. so if they did get somebody involved in espionage, they may want to deter, you know, further espionage as well as russians from participating in espionage. there may be some theater involved here. >> the other part that seems like theater because it just can't be that a cia official would be this stupid is that some russian outlets like "russia today" are reporting on the english translation of a letter they obtained from mr. fogle including telling a potential double agent to go to an internet cafe, create a g-mail account, don't use your personal information. and it's written down. it seems like this is the kind of thing, this k
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the cia contractors fought very brave. two of them fought for hours a hours without getting back up. it's a legitimate question to ask. we can take the attitude there was a terrible disaster. we should just sit back and assume they all knew what they were doing. it's fine president of the united states and not talk or commander or other relevant military entities, not talk to one of them during the evening? when a u.s. ambassador is under attack that has been killed and two more contractors, cia contractors are fighting life and death battle. and the president of the united states has one phone call to the secretary of state and they agree on some statement and then he goes to sleep. may be talks to his own staff. i'm not intent to say that's fine. we can't second guest all of that. the people i know in the military agency thinks there was a failure on presidential leadership. whether it would have been the right decision for the president to make to say it's too risky let's see where we were. i'm not willing to say that's
the cia contractors fought very brave. two of them fought for hours a hours without getting back up. it's a legitimate question to ask. we can take the attitude there was a terrible disaster. we should just sit back and assume they all knew what they were doing. it's fine president of the united states and not talk or commander or other relevant military entities, not talk to one of them during the evening? when a u.s. ambassador is under attack that has been killed and two more contractors,...
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now i should point out that cia director, we're told, the cia deputy director agreed with that change. so bottom line, erin, there's plenty in these e-mails for both sides to make their case which means this issue isn't going to go away any time soon. >> no, absolutely. and, of course, john boehner has already requested more data. on that note, dana, speaker boehner's office, i'm just looking at the note here from a spokesman brendan buck that we received, right, saying we hope this limited release of documents is a sign of more cooperation to come. they want a lot more information. >> they do. we should also remind our viewers that as late as today, this morning, john boehner had a press conference demanding the white house do exactly what they did tonight. so, you know, we should make that point clear because this is exactly what he was asking for. but you're right, erin. they're saying this is not enough. he said this is not enough. they believe there are other, in their words, "relevant documents" that the white house still won't produce. they're saying this is a hopeful sign of t
now i should point out that cia director, we're told, the cia deputy director agreed with that change. so bottom line, erin, there's plenty in these e-mails for both sides to make their case which means this issue isn't going to go away any time soon. >> no, absolutely. and, of course, john boehner has already requested more data. on that note, dana, speaker boehner's office, i'm just looking at the note here from a spokesman brendan buck that we received, right, saying we hope this...
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though now we know that the white house had access to e-mails going back and forth showing that the cia in fact called it a terrorist act and we were just a few weeks out of an election. >> there is no speech that justifies mindless violence. there are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. there is no video that justifies on attack on an embassy. >> also tough trying to get every single one of them wrong, too. >> geraldo: is there any indication yet that any one in the white house was aware of what the irs was doing vis-a-vis the tea party or other conservative groups? >> it would be unbelievable to think that not a sing isle person in the white house close to the president didn't know anything about this. the president has created, geraldo, an environment, a culture of guerilla warfare. he is obsessed with power and ego and hates dissent. he created this environment. who has created all of this? who has created this obsession with power and hatred for dissent in all of these scandals? it is the president. the fact it clearly it just so happens that everyone targeted happens to
though now we know that the white house had access to e-mails going back and forth showing that the cia in fact called it a terrorist act and we were just a few weeks out of an election. >> there is no speech that justifies mindless violence. there are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. there is no video that justifies on attack on an embassy. >> also tough trying to get every single one of them wrong, too. >> geraldo: is there any indication yet that any one in...
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and that the cia made them because the cia wanted to protect the, as they put it, integrity of the on going investigation. so that's consistent with what the administration has said all along. now that helps the white house. on the flip side, there is still foder in all the e-mails for the critics. for example, there is an e-mail as i first reported on friday that the state department took issue with the fact that the attack was blamed on an al qaeda affiliate. state department did not want that out. and that came out of the final version of the talking points. no doubt critics will hold that up to say that was politically motivated. now i should point out that cia director, we're told, the cia deputy director agreed with that change. so bottom line, erin, there's plenty in these e-mails for both sides to make their case which means this issue isn't going to go away any time soon. >> no, absolutely. and, of course, john boehner has already requested more data. on that note, dana, speaker boehner's office, i'm just looking at the note here from a spokesman brendan buck that we received
and that the cia made them because the cia wanted to protect the, as they put it, integrity of the on going investigation. so that's consistent with what the administration has said all along. now that helps the white house. on the flip side, there is still foder in all the e-mails for the critics. for example, there is an e-mail as i first reported on friday that the state department took issue with the fact that the attack was blamed on an al qaeda affiliate. state department did not want...
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because the general counsel of the cia, for one, was saying, hey, wait a minute. there are and will be ongoing investigations here. let's not only prejs them, not signal anything. let's cool it here for investigative reasons. it wasn't hillary clinton's state d. it wasn't ben rhodes at the white house. it wasn't lord knows david akle rod saying we have to cover this thing up for political purposes. there was none of that and to me that was a significant thing. >> and it wasn't susan rice. >> she wasn't even part of the deal. >> that's the biggest scandal of the thoel whole thing. she got trotted out and huge public shaming on set of talking point that she delivered that her staff as far as i can tell wasn't on the e-mail. >> they were prepared for congress and handed to her. that's one scandal. the other is what howard eludes to. state was left holding the bag and all hillary clinton's doing when this is all about the cia and possibly another -- not scandal but an interesting set of questions surrounds what was going on at the compound. there were 30 central intel
because the general counsel of the cia, for one, was saying, hey, wait a minute. there are and will be ongoing investigations here. let's not only prejs them, not signal anything. let's cool it here for investigative reasons. it wasn't hillary clinton's state d. it wasn't ben rhodes at the white house. it wasn't lord knows david akle rod saying we have to cover this thing up for political purposes. there was none of that and to me that was a significant thing. >> and it wasn't susan rice....
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this was an attack on a cia operation house and the cia was heavily involved with the state department. could you really have defended this more rigorously without -- they were involved with intelligence gathering. could this have been any different? tom pickering and his team said not really. and this back and forth between the cia and state department. how much is the cia working its usual game or also protecting the operational security of going after the people who had killed its own people. that's where i think the investigation still has some room for maneuver. what was that post-attack discussion going on, what was at the heart between the state department and cia? >> you've been shaking your head here, joe. let's stick to this question of how it was portrayed. i watched susan rice on television and i thought she was great but i was looking at it from a total political voupoint view. i said that's a soldier perhaps audition for a big job of secretary of state and she just won it. i didn't know the details. i saw her putting the best light on a situation that was strong and reall
this was an attack on a cia operation house and the cia was heavily involved with the state department. could you really have defended this more rigorously without -- they were involved with intelligence gathering. could this have been any different? tom pickering and his team said not really. and this back and forth between the cia and state department. how much is the cia working its usual game or also protecting the operational security of going after the people who had killed its own...
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why would the cia want those words taken out? >> because the way it was explained to me and other reporters by senior administration officials is they didn't want to finger any one group for the attack, in case they were wrong. because it was just days after the attack. and what if, for example, they said this was done by al qaeda and it turns out it wasn't. and then they have to go back and try to accuse someone else that makes it more difficult later on when they try to proceed with a later investigation. so they don't want to be wrong early, and publicly. now, i'll point out that victoria nuland. these e-mails show that the state department asked for a different change, which was that ansar al sharia, an the al-qaeda affilia affiliate, as you know, is named in the talking points. the cia was fine with that and the state department asked for that to come out and it did come out. so, look, there is something for the critics to point to and say the state department wanted some the al-qaeda affiliate taken out and you took it out
why would the cia want those words taken out? >> because the way it was explained to me and other reporters by senior administration officials is they didn't want to finger any one group for the attack, in case they were wrong. because it was just days after the attack. and what if, for example, they said this was done by al qaeda and it turns out it wasn't. and then they have to go back and try to accuse someone else that makes it more difficult later on when they try to proceed with a...
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the cia e-mail us saying, if needed, you may report that they the cia declined to comment. the state department they had this to say. [inaudible] we have seen the russian foreign ministry announcement and have no furor in comment. >> that russian foreign ministry announce said in part at the time that the presidents of our countries recognized the readiness to broaden bilateral cooperation, including between the special services in the fight against international terrorism, such provocative activities absolutely do not help strengthen neutral trust. some experts pointed out these kind of spying allegations happen pretty frequently, rarely rise to this level and are usually dealt with quietly. there's speculation that russia is under pressure internationally. maybe this is a distraction. >> shepard: you wonder when the dude is carrying o around wigs and disguises. >> pretty bizarre elements to this story. first of all, take a look at the picture of ryan fogle, allegedly on the ground when he was arrested, wearing a baseball cap and what took place be a blonde wig. he also ha
the cia e-mail us saying, if needed, you may report that they the cia declined to comment. the state department they had this to say. [inaudible] we have seen the russian foreign ministry announcement and have no furor in comment. >> that russian foreign ministry announce said in part at the time that the presidents of our countries recognized the readiness to broaden bilateral cooperation, including between the special services in the fight against international terrorism, such...
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when jay carney continues to say the cia prepared these talking points. that's absolute nonsense. they were prepared by the cia, when they were sent to the white house were totally different from the final product. they were revised by the white house, by the state department. that's the purpose of a select committee. that's what was done in watergate and iran/contra. i don't want to say who is responsible because we don't know. that's the importance of having a select committee. but again, this is not just -- you are talking about how much money in a tax return or whether or not national debt, what the exact amount is -- we are talk about this lives and deaths of americans. to be faking that story is just inexcusable. we have to find out who did it, why it was done and who allowed it to happen. and what happened that friday, saturday, and sunday. >> jamie: i know you will search for the truth. well now, i guess, there are revelations that 12 revisions were made. many of our viewers know what they are, already. tell me, let's listen to jay carney. is this the truth or a lie? liste
when jay carney continues to say the cia prepared these talking points. that's absolute nonsense. they were prepared by the cia, when they were sent to the white house were totally different from the final product. they were revised by the white house, by the state department. that's the purpose of a select committee. that's what was done in watergate and iran/contra. i don't want to say who is responsible because we don't know. that's the importance of having a select committee. but again,...
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why did he want to put a flag up over the cia operation? thank you, michael crowley. thank you, great reporting, jonathan. we're going to be right back after this. to treat my low testosterone, i did my research. my doctor and i went with axiron, the only underarm low t treatment. axiron can restore t levels to normal in about 2 weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these symptoms to your doctor. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased sperm count; ankle, feet or body swelling; enlarged or painful breasts; problems breathing while sleeping; and blood clots in the legs. common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied,
why did he want to put a flag up over the cia operation? thank you, michael crowley. thank you, great reporting, jonathan. we're going to be right back after this. to treat my low testosterone, i did my research. my doctor and i went with axiron, the only underarm low t treatment. axiron can restore t levels to normal in about 2 weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially those who are or who may become...
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provided in the context of the confirmation as cia director. after seeing the e-mails they approved john brennan. it was a large bipartisan vote. theres no issue here. what is clear from the e-mails is three thing debunk all of the conspiracies here. first the idea that there was a protest is put together -- >> chris: they say the attack was inspired by the protests in cairo. there is no mention of a protest against the video in any of the talking points. >> the idea that the point is that the -- the argument here has been from republicans is that it had nothing to do with the pro tests and that was how somehow fabricated by the administration for political reasons. >> chris: is there a mention about the talking points? there is no demonstration against the video in benghazi? >> what the fact that that happened is what a lot of people -- the second thing in the talking points is that the references to terror and al-qaeda were removed notpy the white house or the state department but by the cia. and this h is why -- >> chris: but the state depar
provided in the context of the confirmation as cia director. after seeing the e-mails they approved john brennan. it was a large bipartisan vote. theres no issue here. what is clear from the e-mails is three thing debunk all of the conspiracies here. first the idea that there was a protest is put together -- >> chris: they say the attack was inspired by the protests in cairo. there is no mention of a protest against the video in any of the talking points. >> the idea that the point...
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you sound very angry and talking about the blame that was leveled at the cia. what upsetted you most about that and are you still angered by it? >> i don't know if i'll ever stop being angry, honestly. even though i would like to. what was most angering about that was being out in front, giving warnings, working hard, not just me, but all the people i worked with, and not just in the cia, but in other organizations as well, and then, you know, just having congress and others just turn on you for their own political reasons and really had nothing to do with the truth. >> you know, tell me, i know both of you are formerly with the cia, when did you leave and why? >> cindy? >> well, that's a hard one. i was in a position where i was -- couldn't publish on the outside and i couldn't really publish what i thought on the inside either. analysis was out of fashion and at that point i decided it is time to leave. >> and what about for you, nada? >> i just decided it was a good time for me to try to explore something else. it was -- it was an unusual ten years that i wa
you sound very angry and talking about the blame that was leveled at the cia. what upsetted you most about that and are you still angered by it? >> i don't know if i'll ever stop being angry, honestly. even though i would like to. what was most angering about that was being out in front, giving warnings, working hard, not just me, but all the people i worked with, and not just in the cia, but in other organizations as well, and then, you know, just having congress and others just turn on...
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they ignored repeated warnings from the cia about the threat. they ignored messages from their own people on the ground that they needed more security. they reduced what was already there. and the administration either had no forces ready to respond to an attack, which should have been anticipated on the anniversary of 9/11, or they refused to deploy them when our people asked for them. >> the president claiming the talking points didn't matter. the original talking points and the cia's assessment was 100% accurate, that it was terror-related. al-qaeda-linked group, ansar al sharia. it evolved into somethi everything knew didn't have anything to do with the attack, it was somehow spontaneous. and that's what the president was telling the world via the u.n. few weeks later when everybody knew it wasn't true and jay carney are saying these are stylist stick changes, they were substantial substantive changes. what do you think is worse, the before, the during or the after part? seems to me the coverup always makes it worse. >> they tried to cover i
they ignored repeated warnings from the cia about the threat. they ignored messages from their own people on the ground that they needed more security. they reduced what was already there. and the administration either had no forces ready to respond to an attack, which should have been anticipated on the anniversary of 9/11, or they refused to deploy them when our people asked for them. >> the president claiming the talking points didn't matter. the original talking points and the cia's...
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in an investigation that appears to be related to ap reporting on the cia busting up an al-qaeda bomb plot a few years ago, the justice department has notified the ap that at least 20 of their phone lines including numbers of their reporters were swept up in a dragnet by the justice department. two months worth of phone records were obtained by the fbi. it is over and done with. when the ap published that story about a year ago about the bomb plot, the response on the right was kind of a mini version of the torches and pitch forks that came out in the 2000s. but in this case because it's a democratic president, the outrage on the right was directed at not just the reporters, it was against the government. they were alleging that the administration doesn't care enough about classified information being leaked. if they really cared, they would freaking investigate it. they would chase this thing down. >> what the president ought to be saying is that this is very damaging to the country. and we're going to do everything we can to get to the bottom of it, whether it involves my white hous
in an investigation that appears to be related to ap reporting on the cia busting up an al-qaeda bomb plot a few years ago, the justice department has notified the ap that at least 20 of their phone lines including numbers of their reporters were swept up in a dragnet by the justice department. two months worth of phone records were obtained by the fbi. it is over and done with. when the ap published that story about a year ago about the bomb plot, the response on the right was kind of a mini...
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why did he want to put a flag up over the cia operation? thank you, michael crowley. thank you, great reporting, jonathan. we're going to be right back after this. i even wrote a play about that. my symptoms were a pain in my abdomen and periods that were heavier and longer than usual for me. if you have symptoms that last two weeks or longer, be brave, go to the doctor. ovarian and uterine cancers are gynecologic cancers. symptoms are not the same for everyone. i got sick...and then i got better. help the gulf recover, andnt to learn from what happenedg goals: so we could be a better, safer energy company. i've been with bp for 24 years. i was part of the team that helped deliver on our commitments to the gulf - and i can tell you, safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge safety equipment and technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all our drilling activity, twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. safety is a vita
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. >> but look at how he and his advisers have explained this -- >> first of all, the cia was the agency that made changes to the edits -- to the talking points. >> the whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. >> i would refer to the irs. i don't have information about that. we have no knowledge of any attempt by the justice department to seek phone records of the "associated press." >> part of being president is there's so much underneath you that you can't know because the government's so vast. >> carney said it was a sideshow, dana. it looks like a three-ring circus and president obama's the ringleader. >> e and eric holder is the bearded lady. >> when he says the buck stops here, true. but they make sure the buck never gets there because they never tell him anything. so he can apparently say, i don't know, i don't know. >> i disagree. i honestly think he's calling the shots but they have that ring -- no, holder decided -- oh, wait a minute. holder, i'm recusing myself because of my deputy, because i testified. it's my deputy attorney genera
. >> but look at how he and his advisers have explained this -- >> first of all, the cia was the agency that made changes to the edits -- to the talking points. >> the whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. >> i would refer to the irs. i don't have information about that. we have no knowledge of any attempt by the justice department to seek phone records of the "associated press." >> part of being president is...
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that investigation is linked to the leak of information about a cia operation in yemen that stopped a terrorist attack. as many as six a.p. reporters who worked on that story were among those targeted by the government. and in a letter to attorney general eric holder, the a.p.'s president writes, in part, there can be no possible justification for such an overboard collection of the telephone communications of the associated press and its reporters. we regard this action by the department of justice as a serious interference with a.p.'s constitutional rights to gather and report the news, end quote. while the white house says it had no knowledge of the seizure, the obama administration has taken significant steps in recent years to investigate the disclosure of classified information. coming up on "morning joe," we'll get more on the a.p.'s response, with executive editor kathleen carole. >>> president obama stayed out of the irs scandal until yesterday. the president addressed the agency's role in targeting organizations with the words tea party in their name and some others that had
that investigation is linked to the leak of information about a cia operation in yemen that stopped a terrorist attack. as many as six a.p. reporters who worked on that story were among those targeted by the government. and in a letter to attorney general eric holder, the a.p.'s president writes, in part, there can be no possible justification for such an overboard collection of the telephone communications of the associated press and its reporters. we regard this action by the department of...
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joining me now is phil black from moscow and former cia officer bob baer. phil, what are the latest details? >> reporter: well, anderson, after being detained last night here in moscow time, ryan fogle was we are told released back into the custody of u.s. embassy officials, and the expectation is now that he's been declared persona non grata he must leave the country immediately. we do not know when precisely and at the moment the u.s. embassy is maintaining silence, still no comment whatsoever. anderson? >> bob, what do you make of this? you're a former cia officer. the letter, the wigs, a compass in moscow, does it make sense to you? >> it makes no sense at all, anderson. you don't carry a compass when you make a meeting in moscow. you never carry a letter. wigs are a waste of time. you just never wear them. if you know who you're meeting it just doesn't matter what you look like. it almost looks like this a kgb, they call it the fsb, plant, to embarrass the united states. but for me, that tells a bigger story, relations between russian intelligence and
joining me now is phil black from moscow and former cia officer bob baer. phil, what are the latest details? >> reporter: well, anderson, after being detained last night here in moscow time, ryan fogle was we are told released back into the custody of u.s. embassy officials, and the expectation is now that he's been declared persona non grata he must leave the country immediately. we do not know when precisely and at the moment the u.s. embassy is maintaining silence, still no comment...
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talking points and ended up as cia talking points. they went through all of the obvious details and suspicions and as the judge points out, discredited an ally in the libyan president who said the same day that susan rice went on the talk shows to do the scrub talking points that this is indeed a terrorist attack. slowing down the fbi's investigation endangering our national security. there is is a lot of cover yourself in here. that is going to be hard for the white house susan. >> it's hard to know where to start with all the untruths and sort of the casual attitude towards the truth it shows with what you just showed. the president saying every aspect of this was investigated the report that the state department had put out in december when the chairman of it says no, we had no mandate to do anything about the talking points for an example. that is as clearly an untruth. he throws them off so casually. we also heard after the talking points that the reason they had to strip out any reference to a.q., al qaeda or a.q.i.m. or terrori
talking points and ended up as cia talking points. they went through all of the obvious details and suspicions and as the judge points out, discredited an ally in the libyan president who said the same day that susan rice went on the talk shows to do the scrub talking points that this is indeed a terrorist attack. slowing down the fbi's investigation endangering our national security. there is is a lot of cover yourself in here. that is going to be hard for the white house susan. >> it's...